[RFCI-Discuss] RFC-ignorant.org list accuracy and refresh frequency...

mouss mouss at ml.netoyen.net
Sun Feb 22 18:04:52 EST 2009


Jean-Marc Pigeon a écrit :
> Bonjour Alan brown,
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 17:25 -0500, Alan Brown wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, mouss wrote:
>>
>>> as you certainly noticed, your CC message was rejected. This is a local
>>> policy ("challenge-response will not be tolerated").
>> It goes further than that.
>>
>> Operating a challenge-response system is sufficient reason for being
>> listed in BOTH Spamhaus and Spamcop lists.
> 	Unless your failed to notice, this is not a challenge-response,
> 	A email is not issued. This a message linked to
> 	the SMTP 4XX status (as an explanation) and is received 
> 	by the real sender ID, NOT the forged one.

1- It will be received in 4 or 5 days. I only saw it because I have
access to the server logs. If I relayed via an external server, I
wouldn't see anything until 4/5 days. This in itself is bad.

2- now, if your challenge expires in 3 days, it gets dramatic...

3- also, if a spammer forges my address and sends via his ISP relay,
then I would get the bounce.

> 
> 	Trouble with the challenge-reponse is when the mail
> 	is accepted and a new Email is send to "out of loop"
> 	sender ID (forged Email), we are not working that
> 	way (do we agree?)
> 

no. see above.


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