[RFCI-Discuss] sendmail.net

[Matus UHLAR - fantomas]

> On 31/08/06 10:37, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> > Please set up your mailer to wrap lines before 80th character.

On 31.08.06 11:18, Simon Arlott wrote:
> I don't see why MUAs should have to accommodate the viewing environment
> of other MUAs

it's not about other MUA's. 80 characters long lines are standardly used in
UNIX and PC environment for years. If you want longer lines, use html (I
don't recommend) or flowed-format plaintext e-mail (see rfc 2646)

> 80 characters is too short when pasting in long lines (e.g. from a log
> file)

This is an exemption widely accepted.

> and also annoying since my screen is wider than 80 characters.

do you (probably) want other people to read your e-mail, or you write it for
yourself? Do you found e-mail from other people annoying if it has lines
shorter than your screen size?

Having to wrap plaintext lines on standard (80char) screen is much more
annoying. Plaintext is plaintext, should be wrapped only where newline is
included, not anywhere user wishes.

> > On 31.08.06 09:51, Simon Arlott wrote:
> >> Why was the listing of sendmail.net rejected?
> >> It clearly meets the following:
> >> 	In the case of "temporary failures", where the MX returns a 4xx
> >> 	series response to e-mails under consideration, it shall be
> >> 	considered a "fatal error" if, after the default sendmail
> >> 	queue-return time, (5 days), the recipient MX fails to accept the
> >                             ^^^^^^
> >> 	mail. In the case of a fatal error, the domain shall be considered
> >> 	to meet the listing criteria.
[...]
> > "Failure at MAIL FROM for 4 days, retries made at Exim's standard rate from a
> >                           ^^^^^^
> > host not in any blacklists checked by moensted.dk."
> > 
> > 
> > 4 days is less than 5 days...
> 
> I've sent another email to postmaster at sendmail.net, with a retry rate
> of every 6 hours for 5 days. I assume this is appropriate, I couldn't
> find a clear definition of how often sendmail would retry.

I don't think there's a requirement on how often you should retry
(others might comment). Server not reachable is understood as having
temporary error, after 5 days the error is understood as permanent.
SMTP is not designed for hosts that are up few hours a day.

> I have also sent the email from <>, assuming it never gets past MAIL
> FROM that should make it listable in DSN.

in such case wou won't be able to provide delivery error message.
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