[RFCI-Discuss] about FQDN for our smtp servers

Alan Brown alanb at digistar.com
Tue Apr 11 13:22:24 EDT 2006


On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, mouss wrote:

> This is a question for the recipeitn MTA. some MTAs will reject you if
> your helo doesn't resolve to your IP.

This is an explicit RFC violation.(*)

>  some MTAs will reject you you if
> your helo doesn't resolve.

So is this.(*)

> some MTAs will accept any helo.

They can use local policy rejectiosn for any reason they want(*)

(*) Many sites use "local policy reasons" as the reason to violate
    RFCs, but "MUST NOT" trumps "local policy" in my book. Having said
    that, I am more than happy to use "local policy" as a reason to block
    SPECIFIC problematic HELOs associated with spamware/networks, etc.

Many MTAs will reject syntactically invalid HELOs (no FQDN, unbracketed
IP or contains invalid characters) or HELOs containing the name/IP of
the receiving MTA ("I refuse to talk to myself, go away!")

> to stay on
> the safe line, your helo should resolve to your client IP
>     one_of_ip(helo) = client_ip

At the very least, on the outnbound MTAs:

1: There should be _ONE_ PTR for each outbound IP address used

2: There should be a matching A record for that PTR

  It is possible to use more than one PTR, but this _will_ cause
  problems unless all PTRs have matching A records.

3: The HELO of the outbound MTA should match the PTR of the outbound IP
   address used, or use the IP address itself in RFC-valid format (no
   brackets == invalid)



I have to say that given the size of Netease, I am extremely surprised
to see an admin here asking basic questions which should have been well
understood before deploying and administering large mail systems.

While it is a good thing that Netease/163's admins are now seeking
assistance, there is a _long_ history of net abuse plus lack of response
to complaints which has left many administrators worldwide feeling
unhappy and Netease's networks widely blocked.


I hope that the effort to fix things up continues - and that Netease
policy towards abusive users/spamhavening is reduced to "no tolerance".
Even with that, it will take a long time for the badly damaged
reputation of the company to recover - but it CAN recover (Ask AOL...)


AB



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