[RFCI-Discuss] Re: alccdenver.com
Ed Allen Smith
rfci-discuss@lists.megacity.org
Mon, 21 Oct 2002 19:35:29 -0400
In message <200210212202.PAA26597@eris> (on 21 October 2002 15:02:50 -0700),
abuse@webcom.com (abuse@webcom.com) wrote:
> Allen -
>
> Thank you for the info. WebCom does not have a
> postmaster@webcom.com email address in use. Please
> use abuse@webcom.com for any mail abuse issues. We do
> have a strict anti-spam policy that we use with
> our customers, and do not tolerate our customers
> sending spam.
>
> If you are going to block us because we do not
> use the postmaster@webcom.com email address, then
> there is little we can do.
Aliasing postmaster@webcom.com to abuse@webcom.com is something that you can
do.
> Please do consider that we do take spamming very seriously, and do not
> tolerate our customers abusing this issue.
Yes, but if someone is trying to get in touch with you regarding a mail
problem (abuse or otherwise), you need to have a postmaster@webcom.com
address, since that is the Internet-standard contact address for such.
-Allen
> - Jorma
>
> WebCom Abuse Department
>
> >
> > In message <200210171849.LAA17910@eris> (on 17 October 2002 11:49:40 -0700),
> > abuse@webcom.com (abuse@webcom.com) wrote:
> > > Allen -
> > >
> > > Thank you for contacting the WebCom Abuse Department.
> > > I do not understand why you are blacklisting this
> > > domain.
> >
> > postmaster is a required address for any domain capable of sending or
> > receiving email for that domain (which is the case for any domain with a
> > MX); see RFC 2821 section 4.5.1
> > (ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2821.txt). Similarly, abuse@domain is a
> > required address for any "root domain" (generally taken to be the level of a
> > domain listed in WHOIS); see RFC 2142
> > (ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2142.txt). The lack of such contact addresses
> > is a good indication of either incompetence or intentional abuse; people
> > thus find it useful to block on the basis of said addresses being
> > nonfunctional, using postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org and/or
> > abuse.rfc-ignorant.org.
> >
> > -Allen
> >
> > > Please let me know the details and I will
> > > be happy to assist you.
> > >
> > > - Jorma
> > >
> > > WebCom Abuse Department
> > >
> > >
> > > > The domain alccdenver.com has a MX, smtp.webcom.com, which is refusing mail
> > > > to postmaster@alccdenver.com and abuse@alccdenver.com. This domain is
> > > > therefore subject to listing on the following blacklists:
> > > > abuse.rfc-ignorant.org
> > > > postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org
> > > > (see http://www.rfc-ignorant.org). This email is CCd to the following
> > > > locatable responsible parties:
> > > > hm@WEBCOM.COM (WHOIS alccdenver.com)
> > > > kcallison2@AOL.COM (WHOIS alccdenver.com)
> > > > abuse@webcom.com
> > > > postmaster@webcom.com
> > > > See below for the SMTP transaction reports and DNS MX data.
> > > >
> > > > -Allen
> > > >
> > > > vrfy -n -h -vv -l -a postmaster@alccdenver.com
> > > > rcpt 'postmaster@alccdenver.com' at 'smtp.webcom.com'
> > > > connecting to smtp.webcom.com (209.1.28.25) port 25
> > > > <<< 220 banana WebCom SMTP(2.0 #262) PID 14889 ready Wed Oct 16 18:34:20 2002
> > > > >>> HELO puck2.rutgers.edu
> > > > <<< 250 banana at your service
> > > > >>> MAIL From:<>
> > > > <<< 250 <>, Sender ok
> > > > >>> RCPT To:<postmaster@alccdenver.com>
> > > > <<< 550 <postmaster@alccdenver.com>, User Unknown
> > > > <postmaster@alccdenver.com>, User Unknown
> > > >
> > > > vrfy -n -h -vv -l -a abuse@alccdenver.com
> > > > rcpt 'abuse@alccdenver.com' at 'smtp.webcom.com'
> > > > connecting to smtp.webcom.com (209.1.28.25) port 25
> > > > <<< 220 banana WebCom SMTP(2.0 #262) PID 14857 ready Wed Oct 16 18:34:27 2002
> > > > >>> HELO puck2.rutgers.edu
> > > > <<< 250 banana at your service
> > > > >>> MAIL From:<>
> > > > <<< 250 <>, Sender ok
> > > > >>> RCPT To:<abuse@alccdenver.com>
> > > > <<< 550 <abuse@alccdenver.com>, User Unknown
> > > > <abuse@alccdenver.com>, User Unknown
> > > >
> > > > dig mx alccdenver.com
> > > >
> > > > ; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> mx alccdenver.com
> > > > ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
> > > > ;; got answer:
> > > > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4
> > > > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 5
> > > > ;; QUERY SECTION:
> > > > ;; alccdenver.com, type = MX, class = IN
> > > >
> > > > ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> > > > alccdenver.com. 18m49s IN MX 0 smtp.webcom.com.
> > > >
> > > > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> > > > alccdenver.com. 18m49s IN NS master.webcom.com.
> > > > alccdenver.com. 18m49s IN NS ns2.webcom.com.
> > > > alccdenver.com. 18m49s IN NS ns.webcom.com.
> > > >
> > > > ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> > > > smtp.webcom.com. 18m49s IN A 209.1.28.25
> > > > smtp.webcom.com. 18m49s IN A 209.1.28.61
> > > > master.webcom.com. 18m49s IN A 209.1.28.43
> > > > ns2.webcom.com. 58m49s IN A 209.1.28.35
> > > > ns.webcom.com. 58m49s IN A 209.1.28.46
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Allen Smith http://cesario.rutgers.edu/easmith/
> > > > September 11, 2001 A Day That Shall Live In Infamy II
> > > > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> > > > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > WebCom abuse@webcom.com
> > > Voice: (888) 893-2266 WebCom Abuse Department
> > >
> > > Web Communications Home Page <URL:http://www.webcom.com/>
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Allen Smith http://cesario.rutgers.edu/easmith/
> > September 11, 2001 A Day That Shall Live In Infamy II
> > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
> >
>
>
> --
> WebCom abuse@webcom.com
> Voice: (888) 893-2266 WebCom Abuse Department
>
> Web Communications Home Page <URL:http://www.webcom.com/>
>
--
Allen Smith http://cesario.rutgers.edu/easmith/
September 11, 2001 A Day That Shall Live In Infamy II
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin